[CCCure CISSP] CISSPstudy Digest, Vol 20, Issue 1

Clement Dupuis clement.dupuis at gmail.com
Wed Feb 10 19:16:57 EST 2010


The new Shon Harris CISSP AIO versus the old one.

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On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 19:09, gerritsjs <gerritsjs at gmail.com> wrote:

> What are we talking about?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisspstudy-bounces at cccure.org [mailto:cisspstudy-bounces at cccure.org]
> On Behalf Of twitwicki at hannaford.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:23 AM
> To: cisspstudy at cccure.org
> Subject: Re: [CCCure CISSP] CISSPstudy Digest, Vol 20, Issue 1
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>
>
> Shibin,
>      I have both versions.  There is a new and useful glossary in V5 and a
> new appendix describing an emerging  vulnerability standard which doesn't
> seem like it would be included in the exam.  Other than these two, I wasn't
> able to easily see what had been added or enhanced which might be reflected
> on the exam.  I did look at the Common Criteria (EAL1-7) in detail because
> it seems like there is increasing adoption of this over the TCSEC Oragne
> Book, but I couldn't see any difference in the treatment.
>
> Tom Witwicki, CIPP
> Director, Information Security
> Hannaford Bros. Co.
> 207-885-2073
>
> Join me on Linkedin!
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/tomwitwicki
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:00:17 +0400
> From: Shibin Thomas <shibinthomas at gmail.com>
> To: cisspstudy at cccure.org
> Subject: Re: [CCCure CISSP] cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 23
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> Hi All,
>
>   Is there any change the topics because of new release of books.
>
> Regards
>
>
> Shibin
>
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:00 PM, <cisspstudy-request at cccure.org> wrote:
>
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> >   1. Re: cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 18 (Holland, Brandon)
> >
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:06:11 -0600
> > From: "Holland, Brandon" <hollandb at frmaint.com>
> > To: "The CISSP Study Mailing list" <cisspstudy at cccure.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 18
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> > That's what stinks about a lot of these questions... because you can
> > understand everything there is to know about the keys and types of keys
> > and still can miss it because you didn't know how the question author
> > wanted you to interpret the question... but this is great is at least
> > whether or not u get this question wrong, it will help to concrete the
> > underlying concepts in your head (the actual important thing, much
> > better than getting a question right on a test)
> >
> > Saying all this, I think this is a little over-blown...  over
> > analyzed...  I think the author put "fully" not for you to ensure you
> > count the same key each time it's used, but to make sure you really know
> > asymmetric and don't use the symmetric key formula on it instead...  you
> > only need 20 keys in total to fully communicate to every person, no
> > matter how many times those keys are used.  Also, it says how many keys
> > are 'required' not how many times they are 'used'
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cisspstudy-bounces at cccure.org
> > [mailto:cisspstudy-bounces at cccure.org] On Behalf Of gerritsjs
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:07 PM
> > To: 'The CISSP Study Mailing list'
> > Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 18
> >
> > Tom;
> >
> >   Let us put it in perspective.  Let us assume that you have made two
> > keys
> > to your house (i.e one public key and one private key).... that is two.
> > You
> > plan to take a vacation for nine/ten days. You have asked 9 friends of
> > yours
> > to watch the house, while you are away.  You have given your public key
> > to a
> > trusted entity (i.e., your aunt/uncle) and told her that you have
> > identified
> > 9 friends to watch your house while you are away and that she is to
> > provide
> > your friends with the public key to your house.
> >
> > To use the asymmetric logic, the trusted entity must not duplicate the
> > key
> > and that the "trusted" person who is responsible for watching the house
> > returns the key to the trusted entity upon completion of his/her watch,
> > so
> > that the next "trusted" person can obtain the key and watch the house
> > for
> > you.  Using this logic, I agree that the number of keys is still 2.
> >
> > When reading the question, it appears that each of your 9 friends has
> > the
> > key to your house (even though they are duplicates), while you are away.
> > And that, let us say, your condo is in New York and that your friends
> > are
> > scattered throughout the United States, and you entrusted them with your
> > condo of $2 Million in New York.  That is, your friends are in Chicago,
> > Washington D.C., Ann Arbor, Dallas, Miami, etc.  The trusted entity is
> > in
> > Los Angeles.  Question:  Is the asymmetric logic still applicable?
> >
> > jonus
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cisspstudy-bounces at cccure.org
> > [mailto:cisspstudy-bounces at cccure.org]
> > On Behalf Of twitwicki at hannaford.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:20 AM
> > To: cisspstudy at cccure.org
> > Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 18
> >
> >
> >
> > Janus,
> >
> > Thank you for adding your explanation of the question.  I can see the
> > logic
> > and your formula makes it easy to understand, but should the public keys
> > be
> > counted as separate for each participant?  Aren't they really just the
> > same
> > public key used by the 10 participants?  The fact that Asymmetric
> > encryption is described as more scalable than symmetric also points to
> > this.  If the were a symmetric case, the keys needed would be 45 .
> > There
> > is a also an example in the ISC2 guide which supports the approach which
> > leads to the answer of 20.
> >
> > Tom Witwicki, CIPP
> > Director, Information Security
> > Hannaford Bros. Co.
> > 207-885-2073
> >
> > Join me on Linkedin!
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >             cisspstudy-reques
> >
> >             t at cccure.org
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> >
> > Subject
> >             01/19/2010 05:53          cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue
> > 18
> >             PM
> >
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> >   1. Re: cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 16 (gerritsjs)
> >   2. Re: cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 16 (Saurabh Bhargava)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:02:56 -0800
> > From: "gerritsjs" <gerritsjs at gmail.com>
> > To: "'The CISSP Study Mailing list'" <cisspstudy at cccure.org>,
> > "'Nimal
> >             Gunarathna'" <ng949 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 16
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> >
> > Nimal, Tom;
> >
> >  The question is "fully" communicated.  Within a community of 10 users,
> > each user will have one private key.  So we have 10 private keys.
> > Public
> > keys are as follows:
> >   For each user, there are 10 public keys. 10 users imply 100 public
> > keys.
> >  This makes a total of 110 keys.
> >
> > Think of a Mesh Technology.
> >
> > Jonus
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cisspstudy-bounces at cccure.org
> > [mailto:cisspstudy-bounces at cccure.org]
> > On Behalf Of twitwicki at hannaford.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:23 PM
> > To: Nimal Gunarathna
> > Cc: cisspstudy at cccure.org
> > Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 16
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Nimal,
> >      I followed the same logic as you on this question.  In order to
> > get
> > to the 110 answer each public key would have to be counted each time
> > it's
> > used which doesn't make sense.  I've come across other examples from
> > this
> > book that are very questionable, which leads me to believe that the
> > questions and answers have not been thouroughly vetted.  Thank you for
> > the
> > reply.
> >
> >  Tom Witwicki, CIPP
> > Director, Information Security
> > Hannaford Bros. Co.
> > 207-885-2073
> >
> > Join me on Linkedin!
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >             Nimal Gunarathna
> >             <ng949 at yahoo.com>
> >
> > To
> >             01/19/2010 04:07          cisspstudy at cccure.org
> >             PM
> > cc
> >                                       twitwicki at hannaford.com
> >
> > Subject
> >                                       Re: cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19,
> >                                       Issue 16
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  Hi Tom,
> >
> >
> >  This question puzzles me..
> >
> >  In an asymmetric system how many keys are required for 10 users to
> > fully
> >
> >  communicate?
> >
> >
> >  Every user has a one private and a one public key. I can send my same
> >
> >  public
> >
> >  key to all others. For 10 people, 20 keys are needed.. I am not sure
> > how
> >
> >  110 come from?
> >
> >  Is this a private com session or just a different comm session with
> > each
> >
> >  pair?
> >
> >
> >  Thanks,
> >
> >
> >  Nimal Gunarathna
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  --- On Tue, 1/19/10, cisspstudy-request at cccure.org
> >
> >  <cisspstudy-request at cccure.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >  From: cisspstudy-request at cccure.org <cisspstudy-request at cccure.org>
> >
> >  Subject: cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 16
> >
> >  To: cisspstudy at cccure.org
> >
> >  Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 11:00 AM
> >
> >
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> >     1. cisspstudy  - Cryptography questions (twitwicki at hannaford.com)
> >
> >     2. Re: New to CISSP Cert (Mark Price)
> >
> >     3. Re: New to CISSP Cert (jack wang)
> >
> >     4. Re: New to CISSP Cert (Jeronimo Zucco)
> >
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> >  Message: 1
> >
> >  Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:48:26 -0500
> >
> >  From: twitwicki at hannaford.com
> >
> >  To: cisspstudy at cccure.org
> >
> >  Subject: [Cisspstudy] cisspstudy  - Cryptography questions
> >
> >  Message-ID:
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> >      <
> >
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> > OF8F407D94.BBDB76DE-ON852576AF.006B4314-852576AF.006CCD97 at hannaford.com>
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> >
> >
> >
> >  Hello all,
> >
> >        I'd like your thoughts on these questions from Michael Gregg's
> >
> >  CISSP
> >
> >  Practice questions:
> >
> >
> >  In an asymmetric system how many keys are required for 10 users to
> > fully
> >
> >  communicate?
> >
> >
> >  A. 10
> >
> >  B. 20
> >
> >  C. 45
> >
> >  D 110
> >
> >
> >  The answer states D. 110 -  "Each user would have his private, phus
> > his
> >
> >  public key, plus each of the nine other public keys"
> >
> >  Shouldn't the answer be B. 20  because the public keys is only couned
> >
> >  once
> >
> >  for each private/public pair?  This also seems consistent with the
> >
> >  formula
> >
> >  for symmetric keys: N(N-1)/2 where N is the number of users needing to
> >
> >  communicate.  In this case the secret key is only counted once even if
> >
> >  it's
> >
> >  shared between users.
> >
> >
> >
> >  Here's another question that has me puzzled:
> >
> >
> >  Which cryptographic system can be used for integrity, authenticity and
> >
> >  non-repudiation?
> >
> >
> >  A. Asymmetric encryption
> >
> >  B. Symmetric  encryption
> >
> >  C. Hashing
> >
> >  D. None of the above
> >
> >
> >  The answers states A. Asymmetric.  Shouldn't the answer be D. None of
> > the
> >
> >  above because Hashing is needed for integrity?
> >
> >
> >  Your thoughts will be much appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> >  Tom Witwicki, CIPP
> >
> >  Director, Information Security
> >
> >  Hannaford Bros. Co.
> >
> >  207-885-2073
> >
> >
> >  Join me on Linkedin!
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >  Message: 2
> >
> >  Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:47:45 +0000
> >
> >  From: "Mark Price" <prinext at gmail.com>
> >
> >  To: "The CISSP Study Mailing list" <cisspstudy at cccure.org>
> >
> >  Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] New to CISSP Cert
> >
> >  Message-ID:
> >
> >      <
> >
> >
> > 1180962559-1263851266-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-147941822
> > -
> >
> >  @bda153.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
> >
> >
> >  Content-Type: text/plain
> >
> >
> >  I have heard each edition is an update of the previous plus more of
> > the
> >
> >  latest technology and or standards.
> >
> >  I have the 4th and the DVD set, they plus cccure.org worked for me.
> >
> >  V/r,
> >
> >
> >  Mark Price
> >
> >  PRINEXT
> >
> >  c:240-743-7654
> >
> >  mprice at prinext.com
> >
> >  www.prinext.com
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >
> >  From: Cert Prep <bugtraq.mailbox at gmail.com>
> >
> >  Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:22:40
> >
> >  To: The CISSP Study Mailing list<cisspstudy at cccure.org>
> >
> >  Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] New to CISSP Cert
> >
> >
> >  Thanks Jeronimo. I will listen to it.
> >
> >
> >  I have Shon Harris Second Edition which I bought many years back. I
> >
> >  have heard that 5th edition is about to come. Is it ok to prepare from
> >
> >  second edition until 5th edition is out? Does anybody know the
> >
> >  differences between 2nd and 4th? I am sure there will be many but are
> >
> >  those drastic to the extent that I will have to revise the stuff,
> >
> >  which I have already gone through using second edition, from 5th
> >
> >  edition once it is published?
> >
> >
> >  Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> >
> >  Thanks.
> >
> >  Adam
> >
> >
> >  On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Jeronimo Zucco <jczucco at gmail.com>
> >
> >  wrote:
> >
> >  > 2010/1/18 Cert Prep <bugtraq.mailbox at gmail.com>:
> >
> >  >> Hi Folks,
> >
> >  >>
> >
> >  >> I am planning to prepare for CISSP Cert and would like to know
> > which
> >
> >  >> book or material is best for the preparations.
> >
> >  >
> >
> >  >
> >
> >  > http://www.cccure.org/flash/intro/player.html
> >
> >  >
> >
> >  >
> >
> >  >
> >
> >  > --
> >
> >  > Jeronimo Zucco
> >
> >  > http://jczucco.blogspot.com
> >
> >  >
> >
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> >
> >  Message: 3
> >
> >  Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:05:00 +0800
> >
> >  From: jack wang <windjie at gmail.com>
> >
> >  To: The CISSP Study Mailing list <cisspstudy at cccure.org>
> >
> >  Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] New to CISSP Cert
> >
> >  Message-ID:
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> >  Shon Harris Second Edition,plus www.cccure.org,they are enough
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> >  Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:34:19 -0200
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> >  From: Jeronimo Zucco <jczucco at gmail.com>
> >
> >  To: The CISSP Study Mailing list <cisspstudy at cccure.org>
> >
> >  Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] New to CISSP Cert
> >
> >  Message-ID:
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> >
> >  All-in_one edition 5:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/CISSP-All-One-Guide-Fifth/dp/0071602178/ref=sr_1_2
> > ?
> >
> >  ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263898897&sr=8-2
> >
> >
> >  I always recommend the last edition, because of updates and
> >
> >  corretions. Or you can read all erratas for your edition.
> >
> >
> >  2010/1/19 jack wang <windjie at gmail.com>:
> >
> >  > ?Shon Harris Second Edition,plus www.cccure.org,they are enough
> >
> >  >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:23:33 +0530 (IST)
> > From: Saurabh Bhargava <catchbhargava at yahoo.com>
> > To: The CISSP Study Mailing list <cisspstudy at cccure.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 16
> > Message-ID: <804072.93709.qm at web94803.mail.in2.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Jonus, here is the catch.
> >
> > you say " For each user, there are 10 public keys. 10 users imply 100
> > public keys" - but ALL these public keys are the same for all 10 users,
> > they aren't different so 10 users still will imply 10 Public keys , even
> > though author says "fully" communicate/Mesh technology.
> >
> > Tom, I would select the answers you've chosen for both the questions.
> >
> > Cheers, SB
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: gerritsjs <gerritsjs at gmail.com>
> > To: The CISSP Study Mailing list <cisspstudy at cccure.org>; Nimal
> > Gunarathna
> > <ng949 at yahoo.com>
> > Sent: Tue, 19 January, 2010 22:02:56
> > Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 16
> >
> > Nimal, Tom;
> >
> >  The question is "fully" communicated.  Within a community of 10 users,
> > each user will have one private key.  So we have 10 private keys.
> > Public
> > keys are as follows:
> >   For each user, there are 10 public keys. 10 users imply 100 public
> > keys.
> >  This makes a total of 110 keys.
> >
> > Think of a Mesh Technology.
> >
> > Jonus
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cisspstudy-bounces at cccure.org
> > [mailto:cisspstudy-bounces at cccure.org]
> > On Behalf Of twitwicki at hannaford.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:23 PM
> > To: Nimal Gunarathna
> > Cc: cisspstudy at cccure.org
> > Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 16
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Nimal,
> >      I followed the same logic as you on this question.  In order to
> > get
> > to the 110 answer each public key would have to be counted each time
> > it's
> > used which doesn't make sense.  I've come across other examples from
> > this
> > book that are very questionable, which leads me to believe that the
> > questions and answers have not been thouroughly vetted.  Thank you for
> > the
> > reply.
> >
> > Tom Witwicki, CIPP
> > Director, Information Security
> > Hannaford Bros. Co.
> > 207-885-2073
> >
> > Join me on Linkedin!
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/tomwitwicki
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >             Nimal Gunarathna
> >             <ng949 at yahoo.com>
> >
> > To
> >             01/19/2010 04:07          cisspstudy at cccure.org
> >             PM
> > cc
> >                                      twitwicki at hannaford.com
> >
> > Subject
> >                                       Re: cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19,
> >                                       Issue 16
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > This question puzzles me..
> > In an asymmetric system how many keys are required for 10 users to fully
> > communicate?
> >
> > Every user has a one private and a one public key. I can send my same
> > public
> > key to all others. For 10 people, 20 keys are needed.. I am not sure how
> > 110 come from?
> > Is this a private com session or just a different comm session with each
> > pair?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Nimal Gunarathna
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 1/19/10, cisspstudy-request at cccure.org
> > <cisspstudy-request at cccure.org> wrote:
> >
> >  From: cisspstudy-request at cccure.org <cisspstudy-request at cccure.org>
> >  Subject: cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 16
> >
> >  To: cisspstudy at cccure.org
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> >     1. cisspstudy  - Cryptography questions (twitwicki at hannaford.com)
> >
> >     2. Re: New to CISSP Cert (Mark Price)
> >
> >     3. Re: New to CISSP Cert (jack wang)
> >     4. Re: New to CISSP Cert (Jeronimo Zucco)
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> >  Message: 1
> >
> >  Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:48:26 -0500
> >  From: twitwicki at hannaford.com
> >  To: cisspstudy at cccure.org
> >  Subject: [Cisspstudy] cisspstudy  - Cryptography questions
> >
> >  Message-ID:
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> >
> >
> >  Hello all,
> >
> >        I'd like your thoughts on these questions from Michael Gregg's
> >
> >  CISSP
> >  Practice questions:
> >
> >  In an asymmetric system how many keys are required for 10 users to
> > fully
> >
> >  communicate?
> >
> >
> >  A. 10
> >  B. 20
> >  C. 45
> >  D 110
> >
> >  The answer states D. 110 -  "Each user would have his private, phus
> > his
> >  public key, plus each of the nine other public keys"
> >
> >  Shouldn't the answer be B. 20  because the public keys is only couned
> >  once
> >
> >  for each private/public pair?  This also seems consistent with the
> >
> >  formula
> >  for symmetric keys: N(N-1)/2 where N is the number of users needing to
> >
> >  communicate.  In this case the secret key is only counted once even if
> >
> >  it's
> >
> >  shared between users.
> >
> >
> >  Here's another question that has me puzzled:
> >
> >
> >  Which cryptographic system can be used for integrity, authenticity and
> >
> >  non-repudiation?
> >
> >
> >  A. Asymmetric encryption
> >
> >  B. Symmetric  encryption
> >
> >  C. Hashing
> >
> >  D. None of the above
> >
> >
> >  The answers states A. Asymmetric.  Shouldn't the answer be D. None of
> > the
> >
> >  above because Hashing is needed for integrity?
> >
> >
> >  Your thoughts will be much appreciated.
> >
> >
> >  Tom Witwicki, CIPP
> >
> >  Director, Information Security
> >
> >  Hannaford Bros. Co.
> >  207-885-2073
> >
> >
> >  Join me on Linkedin!
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> >  http://www.linkedin.com/in/tomwitwicki
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >  Message: 2
> >
> >  Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:47:45 +0000
> >  From: "Mark Price" <prinext at gmail.com>
> >
> >  To: "The CISSP Study Mailing list" <cisspstudy at cccure.org>
> >
> >  Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] New to CISSP Cert
> >  Message-ID:
> >      <
> >
> > 1180962559-1263851266-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-147941822
> > -
> >
> >  @bda153.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
> >
> >
> >  Content-Type: text/plain
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> >
> >  I have heard each edition is an update of the previous plus more of
> > the
> >  latest technology and or standards.
> >  I have the 4th and the DVD set, they plus cccure.org worked for me.
> >  V/r,
> >
> >
> >  Mark Price
> >
> >  PRINEXT
> >  c:240-743-7654
> >
> >  mprice at prinext.com
> >
> >  www.prinext.com
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >
> >  From: Cert Prep <bugtraq.mailbox at gmail.com>
> >  Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:22:40
> >  To: The CISSP Study Mailing list<cisspstudy at cccure.org>
> >  Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] New to CISSP Cert
> >
> >  Thanks Jeronimo. I will listen to it.
> >
> >  I have Shon Harris Second Edition which I bought many years back. I
> >  have heard that 5th edition is about to come. Is it ok to prepare from
> >
> >  second edition until 5th edition is out? Does anybody know the
> >
> >  differences between 2nd and 4th? I am sure there will be many but are
> >  those drastic to the extent that I will have to revise the stuff,
> >  which I have already gone through using second edition, from 5th
> >
> >  edition once it is published?
> >
> >  Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> >
> >  Thanks.
> >  Adam
> >
> >
> >  On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Jeronimo Zucco <jczucco at gmail.com>
> >
> >  wrote:
> >
> >  > 2010/1/18 Cert Prep <bugtraq.mailbox at gmail.com>:
> >
> >  >> Hi Folks,
> >
> >  >>
> >
> >  >> I am planning to prepare for CISSP Cert and would like to know
> > which
> >  >> book or material is best for the preparations.
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > http://www.cccure.org/flash/intro/player.html
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > --
> >
> >  > Jeronimo Zucco
> >
> >  > http://jczucco.blogspot.com
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> >  Message: 3
> >
> >  Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:05:00 +0800
> >  From: jack wang <windjie at gmail.com>
> >  To: The CISSP Study Mailing list <cisspstudy at cccure.org>
> >
> >  Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] New to CISSP Cert
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> >  Shon Harris Second Edition,plus www.cccure.org,they are enough
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> >  Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:34:19 -0200
> >  From: Jeronimo Zucco <jczucco at gmail.com>
> >
> >  To: The CISSP Study Mailing list <cisspstudy at cccure.org>
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> >  Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] New to CISSP Cert
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> >  All-in_one edition 5:
> >
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/CISSP-All-One-Guide-Fifth/dp/0071602178/ref=sr_1_2
> > ?
> >
> >  ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263898897&sr=8-2
> >
> >  I always recommend the last edition, because of updates and
> >  corretions. Or you can read all erratas for your edition.
> >
> >  2010/1/19 jack wang <windjie at gmail.com>:
> >
> >  > ?Shon Harris Second Edition,plus www.cccure.org,they are enough
> >  >
> >
> >
> >  --
> >
> >  Jeronimo Zucco
> >
> >  http://jczucco.blogspot.com
> >
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