[CCCure CISSP] CISSPstudy Digest, Vol 20, Issue 5

Shibin Thomas shibinthomas at gmail.com
Wed Feb 10 23:08:18 EST 2010


Thanks Clement

REgards

Shibin

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> From: Clement Dupuis <clement.dupuis at cccure.com>
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> Good day,
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> There hasn't been any major changes to the exam.
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> Clement
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> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 13:00, Shibin Thomas <shibinthomas at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > Hi All,
> >
> >    Is there any change the topics because of new release of books.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > Shibin
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:00 PM, <cisspstudy-request at cccure.org> wrote:
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> >>   1. Re: cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 18 (Holland, Brandon)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 14:06:11 -0600
> >> From: "Holland, Brandon" <hollandb at frmaint.com>
> >> To: "The CISSP Study Mailing list" <cisspstudy at cccure.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 18
> >> Message-ID:
> >>        <58B3233454132D468C5F0D655003DA6410F891EA at MAIL.frmaint.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
> >>
> >> That's what stinks about a lot of these questions... because you can
> >> understand everything there is to know about the keys and types of keys
> >> and still can miss it because you didn't know how the question author
> >> wanted you to interpret the question... but this is great is at least
> >> whether or not u get this question wrong, it will help to concrete the
> >> underlying concepts in your head (the actual important thing, much
> >> better than getting a question right on a test)
> >>
> >> Saying all this, I think this is a little over-blown...  over
> >> analyzed...  I think the author put "fully" not for you to ensure you
> >> count the same key each time it's used, but to make sure you really know
> >> asymmetric and don't use the symmetric key formula on it instead...  you
> >> only need 20 keys in total to fully communicate to every person, no
> >> matter how many times those keys are used.  Also, it says how many keys
> >> are 'required' not how many times they are 'used'
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: cisspstudy-bounces at cccure.org
> >> [mailto:cisspstudy-bounces at cccure.org] On Behalf Of gerritsjs
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:07 PM
> >> To: 'The CISSP Study Mailing list'
> >> Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 18
> >>
> >> Tom;
> >>
> >>   Let us put it in perspective.  Let us assume that you have made two
> >> keys
> >> to your house (i.e one public key and one private key).... that is two.
> >> You
> >> plan to take a vacation for nine/ten days. You have asked 9 friends of
> >> yours
> >> to watch the house, while you are away.  You have given your public key
> >> to a
> >> trusted entity (i.e., your aunt/uncle) and told her that you have
> >> identified
> >> 9 friends to watch your house while you are away and that she is to
> >> provide
> >> your friends with the public key to your house.
> >>
> >> To use the asymmetric logic, the trusted entity must not duplicate the
> >> key
> >> and that the "trusted" person who is responsible for watching the house
> >> returns the key to the trusted entity upon completion of his/her watch,
> >> so
> >> that the next "trusted" person can obtain the key and watch the house
> >> for
> >> you.  Using this logic, I agree that the number of keys is still 2.
> >>
> >> When reading the question, it appears that each of your 9 friends has
> >> the
> >> key to your house (even though they are duplicates), while you are away.
> >> And that, let us say, your condo is in New York and that your friends
> >> are
> >> scattered throughout the United States, and you entrusted them with your
> >> condo of $2 Million in New York.  That is, your friends are in Chicago,
> >> Washington D.C., Ann Arbor, Dallas, Miami, etc.  The trusted entity is
> >> in
> >> Los Angeles.  Question:  Is the asymmetric logic still applicable?
> >>
> >> jonus
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: cisspstudy-bounces at cccure.org
> >> [mailto:cisspstudy-bounces at cccure.org]
> >> On Behalf Of twitwicki at hannaford.com
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:20 AM
> >> To: cisspstudy at cccure.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 18
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Janus,
> >>
> >> Thank you for adding your explanation of the question.  I can see the
> >> logic
> >> and your formula makes it easy to understand, but should the public keys
> >> be
> >> counted as separate for each participant?  Aren't they really just the
> >> same
> >> public key used by the 10 participants?  The fact that Asymmetric
> >> encryption is described as more scalable than symmetric also points to
> >> this.  If the were a symmetric case, the keys needed would be 45 .
> >> There
> >> is a also an example in the ISC2 guide which supports the approach which
> >> leads to the answer of 20.
> >>
> >> Tom Witwicki, CIPP
> >> Director, Information Security
> >> Hannaford Bros. Co.
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> >>
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> >>             cisspstudy-reques
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> >>             01/19/2010 05:53          cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue
> >> 18
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> >>   1. Re: cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 16 (gerritsjs)
> >>   2. Re: cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 16 (Saurabh Bhargava)
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> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:02:56 -0800
> >> From: "gerritsjs" <gerritsjs at gmail.com>
> >> To: "'The CISSP Study Mailing list'" <cisspstudy at cccure.org>,
> >> "'Nimal
> >>             Gunarathna'" <ng949 at yahoo.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 16
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> >> Nimal, Tom;
> >>
> >>  The question is "fully" communicated.  Within a community of 10 users,
> >> each user will have one private key.  So we have 10 private keys.
> >> Public
> >> keys are as follows:
> >>   For each user, there are 10 public keys. 10 users imply 100 public
> >> keys.
> >>  This makes a total of 110 keys.
> >>
> >> Think of a Mesh Technology.
> >>
> >> Jonus
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: cisspstudy-bounces at cccure.org
> >> [mailto:cisspstudy-bounces at cccure.org]
> >> On Behalf Of twitwicki at hannaford.com
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:23 PM
> >> To: Nimal Gunarathna
> >> Cc: cisspstudy at cccure.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 16
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Nimal,
> >>      I followed the same logic as you on this question.  In order to
> >> get
> >> to the 110 answer each public key would have to be counted each time
> >> it's
> >> used which doesn't make sense.  I've come across other examples from
> >> this
> >> book that are very questionable, which leads me to believe that the
> >> questions and answers have not been thouroughly vetted.  Thank you for
> >> the
> >> reply.
> >>
> >>  Tom Witwicki, CIPP
> >> Director, Information Security
> >> Hannaford Bros. Co.
> >> 207-885-2073
> >>
> >> Join me on Linkedin!
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>             Nimal Gunarathna
> >>             <ng949 at yahoo.com>
> >>
> >> To
> >>             01/19/2010 04:07          cisspstudy at cccure.org
> >>             PM
> >> cc
> >>                                       twitwicki at hannaford.com
> >>
> >> Subject
> >>                                       Re: cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19,
> >>                                       Issue 16
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  Hi Tom,
> >>
> >>
> >>  This question puzzles me..
> >>
> >>  In an asymmetric system how many keys are required for 10 users to
> >> fully
> >>
> >>  communicate?
> >>
> >>
> >>  Every user has a one private and a one public key. I can send my same
> >>
> >>  public
> >>
> >>  key to all others. For 10 people, 20 keys are needed.. I am not sure
> >> how
> >>
> >>  110 come from?
> >>
> >>  Is this a private com session or just a different comm session with
> >> each
> >>
> >>  pair?
> >>
> >>
> >>  Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >>  Nimal Gunarathna
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  --- On Tue, 1/19/10, cisspstudy-request at cccure.org
> >>
> >>  <cisspstudy-request at cccure.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>  From: cisspstudy-request at cccure.org <cisspstudy-request at cccure.org>
> >>
> >>  Subject: cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 16
> >>
> >>  To: cisspstudy at cccure.org
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> >>  Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 11:00 AM
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> >>  Today's Topics:
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> >>     1. cisspstudy  - Cryptography questions (twitwicki at hannaford.com)
> >>
> >>     2. Re: New to CISSP Cert (Mark Price)
> >>
> >>     3. Re: New to CISSP Cert (jack wang)
> >>
> >>     4. Re: New to CISSP Cert (Jeronimo Zucco)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>
> >>  Message: 1
> >>
> >>  Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:48:26 -0500
> >>
> >>  From: twitwicki at hannaford.com
> >>
> >>  To: cisspstudy at cccure.org
> >>
> >>  Subject: [Cisspstudy] cisspstudy  - Cryptography questions
> >>
> >>  Message-ID:
> >>
> >>      <
> >>
> >>
> >> OF8F407D94.BBDB76DE-ON852576AF.006B4314-852576AF.006CCD97 at hannaford.com
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  Hello all,
> >>
> >>        I'd like your thoughts on these questions from Michael Gregg's
> >>
> >>  CISSP
> >>
> >>  Practice questions:
> >>
> >>
> >>  In an asymmetric system how many keys are required for 10 users to
> >> fully
> >>
> >>  communicate?
> >>
> >>
> >>  A. 10
> >>
> >>  B. 20
> >>
> >>  C. 45
> >>
> >>  D 110
> >>
> >>
> >>  The answer states D. 110 -  "Each user would have his private, phus
> >> his
> >>
> >>  public key, plus each of the nine other public keys"
> >>
> >>  Shouldn't the answer be B. 20  because the public keys is only couned
> >>
> >>  once
> >>
> >>  for each private/public pair?  This also seems consistent with the
> >>
> >>  formula
> >>
> >>  for symmetric keys: N(N-1)/2 where N is the number of users needing to
> >>
> >>  communicate.  In this case the secret key is only counted once even if
> >>
> >>  it's
> >>
> >>  shared between users.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  Here's another question that has me puzzled:
> >>
> >>
> >>  Which cryptographic system can be used for integrity, authenticity and
> >>
> >>  non-repudiation?
> >>
> >>
> >>  A. Asymmetric encryption
> >>
> >>  B. Symmetric  encryption
> >>
> >>  C. Hashing
> >>
> >>  D. None of the above
> >>
> >>
> >>  The answers states A. Asymmetric.  Shouldn't the answer be D. None of
> >> the
> >>
> >>  above because Hashing is needed for integrity?
> >>
> >>
> >>  Your thoughts will be much appreciated.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  Tom Witwicki, CIPP
> >>
> >>  Director, Information Security
> >>
> >>  Hannaford Bros. Co.
> >>
> >>  207-885-2073
> >>
> >>
> >>  Join me on Linkedin!
> >>
> >>  http://www.linkedin.com/in/tomwitwicki
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  ------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>  Message: 2
> >>
> >>  Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:47:45 +0000
> >>
> >>  From: "Mark Price" <prinext at gmail.com>
> >>
> >>  To: "The CISSP Study Mailing list" <cisspstudy at cccure.org>
> >>
> >>  Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] New to CISSP Cert
> >>
> >>  Message-ID:
> >>
> >>      <
> >>
> >>
> >> 1180962559-1263851266-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-147941822
> >> -
> >>
> >>  @bda153.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
> >>
> >>
> >>  Content-Type: text/plain
> >>
> >>
> >>  I have heard each edition is an update of the previous plus more of
> >> the
> >>
> >>  latest technology and or standards.
> >>
> >>  I have the 4th and the DVD set, they plus cccure.org worked for me.
> >>
> >>  V/r,
> >>
> >>
> >>  Mark Price
> >>
> >>  PRINEXT
> >>
> >>  c:240-743-7654
> >>
> >>  mprice at prinext.com
> >>
> >>  www.prinext.com
> >>
> >>
> >>  -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >>  From: Cert Prep <bugtraq.mailbox at gmail.com>
> >>
> >>  Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:22:40
> >>
> >>  To: The CISSP Study Mailing list<cisspstudy at cccure.org>
> >>
> >>  Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] New to CISSP Cert
> >>
> >>
> >>  Thanks Jeronimo. I will listen to it.
> >>
> >>
> >>  I have Shon Harris Second Edition which I bought many years back. I
> >>
> >>  have heard that 5th edition is about to come. Is it ok to prepare from
> >>
> >>  second edition until 5th edition is out? Does anybody know the
> >>
> >>  differences between 2nd and 4th? I am sure there will be many but are
> >>
> >>  those drastic to the extent that I will have to revise the stuff,
> >>
> >>  which I have already gone through using second edition, from 5th
> >>
> >>  edition once it is published?
> >>
> >>
> >>  Any help would be appreciated.
> >>
> >>
> >>  Thanks.
> >>
> >>  Adam
> >>
> >>
> >>  On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Jeronimo Zucco <jczucco at gmail.com>
> >>
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>  > 2010/1/18 Cert Prep <bugtraq.mailbox at gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>  >> Hi Folks,
> >>
> >>  >>
> >>
> >>  >> I am planning to prepare for CISSP Cert and would like to know
> >> which
> >>
> >>  >> book or material is best for the preparations.
> >>
> >>  >
> >>
> >>  >
> >>
> >>  > http://www.cccure.org/flash/intro/player.html
> >>
> >>  >
> >>
> >>  >
> >>
> >>  >
> >>
> >>  > --
> >>
> >>  > Jeronimo Zucco
> >>
> >>  > http://jczucco.blogspot.com
> >>
> >>  >
> >>
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> >>
> >>  Message: 3
> >>
> >>  Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:05:00 +0800
> >>
> >>  From: jack wang <windjie at gmail.com>
> >>
> >>  To: The CISSP Study Mailing list <cisspstudy at cccure.org>
> >>
> >>  Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] New to CISSP Cert
> >>
> >>  Message-ID:
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> >>      <3c43566f1001190405t2bfd204as4a953dd160a5b92b at mail.gmail.com>
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> >>
> >>  Shon Harris Second Edition,plus www.cccure.org,they are enough
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> >>  Message: 4
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> >>  Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:34:19 -0200
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> >>  From: Jeronimo Zucco <jczucco at gmail.com>
> >>
> >>  To: The CISSP Study Mailing list <cisspstudy at cccure.org>
> >>
> >>  Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] New to CISSP Cert
> >>
> >>  Message-ID:
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> >>
> >>  All-in_one edition 5:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.amazon.com/CISSP-All-One-Guide-Fifth/dp/0071602178/ref=sr_1_2
> >> ?
> >>
> >>  ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263898897&sr=8-2
> >>
> >>
> >>  I always recommend the last edition, because of updates and
> >>
> >>  corretions. Or you can read all erratas for your edition.
> >>
> >>
> >>  2010/1/19 jack wang <windjie at gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>  > ?Shon Harris Second Edition,plus www.cccure.org,they are enough
> >>
> >>  >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  --
> >>
> >>  Jeronimo Zucco
> >>
> >>  http://jczucco.blogspot.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:23:33 +0530 (IST)
> >> From: Saurabh Bhargava <catchbhargava at yahoo.com>
> >> To: The CISSP Study Mailing list <cisspstudy at cccure.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 16
> >> Message-ID: <804072.93709.qm at web94803.mail.in2.yahoo.com>
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> >>
> >> Jonus, here is the catch.
> >>
> >> you say " For each user, there are 10 public keys. 10 users imply 100
> >> public keys" - but ALL these public keys are the same for all 10 users,
> >> they aren't different so 10 users still will imply 10 Public keys , even
> >> though author says "fully" communicate/Mesh technology.
> >>
> >> Tom, I would select the answers you've chosen for both the questions.
> >>
> >> Cheers, SB
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: gerritsjs <gerritsjs at gmail.com>
> >> To: The CISSP Study Mailing list <cisspstudy at cccure.org>; Nimal
> >> Gunarathna
> >> <ng949 at yahoo.com>
> >> Sent: Tue, 19 January, 2010 22:02:56
> >> Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 16
> >>
> >> Nimal, Tom;
> >>
> >>  The question is "fully" communicated.  Within a community of 10 users,
> >> each user will have one private key.  So we have 10 private keys.
> >> Public
> >> keys are as follows:
> >>   For each user, there are 10 public keys. 10 users imply 100 public
> >> keys.
> >>  This makes a total of 110 keys.
> >>
> >> Think of a Mesh Technology.
> >>
> >> Jonus
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: cisspstudy-bounces at cccure.org
> >> [mailto:cisspstudy-bounces at cccure.org]
> >> On Behalf Of twitwicki at hannaford.com
> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:23 PM
> >> To: Nimal Gunarathna
> >> Cc: cisspstudy at cccure.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 16
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Nimal,
> >>      I followed the same logic as you on this question.  In order to
> >> get
> >> to the 110 answer each public key would have to be counted each time
> >> it's
> >> used which doesn't make sense.  I've come across other examples from
> >> this
> >> book that are very questionable, which leads me to believe that the
> >> questions and answers have not been thouroughly vetted.  Thank you for
> >> the
> >> reply.
> >>
> >> Tom Witwicki, CIPP
> >> Director, Information Security
> >> Hannaford Bros. Co.
> >> 207-885-2073
> >>
> >> Join me on Linkedin!
> >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/tomwitwicki
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>             Nimal Gunarathna
> >>             <ng949 at yahoo.com>
> >>
> >> To
> >>             01/19/2010 04:07          cisspstudy at cccure.org
> >>             PM
> >> cc
> >>                                      twitwicki at hannaford.com
> >>
> >> Subject
> >>                                       Re: cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19,
> >>                                       Issue 16
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Tom,
> >>
> >> This question puzzles me..
> >> In an asymmetric system how many keys are required for 10 users to fully
> >> communicate?
> >>
> >> Every user has a one private and a one public key. I can send my same
> >> public
> >> key to all others. For 10 people, 20 keys are needed.. I am not sure how
> >> 110 come from?
> >> Is this a private com session or just a different comm session with each
> >> pair?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Nimal Gunarathna
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Tue, 1/19/10, cisspstudy-request at cccure.org
> >> <cisspstudy-request at cccure.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>  From: cisspstudy-request at cccure.org <cisspstudy-request at cccure.org>
> >>  Subject: cisspstudy Digest, Vol 19, Issue 16
> >>
> >>  To: cisspstudy at cccure.org
> >>  Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 11:00 AM
> >>
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> >>  Today's Topics:
> >>
> >>     1. cisspstudy  - Cryptography questions (twitwicki at hannaford.com)
> >>
> >>     2. Re: New to CISSP Cert (Mark Price)
> >>
> >>     3. Re: New to CISSP Cert (jack wang)
> >>     4. Re: New to CISSP Cert (Jeronimo Zucco)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>  Message: 1
> >>
> >>  Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:48:26 -0500
> >>  From: twitwicki at hannaford.com
> >>  To: cisspstudy at cccure.org
> >>  Subject: [Cisspstudy] cisspstudy  - Cryptography questions
> >>
> >>  Message-ID:
> >>      <
> >>
> >> OF8F407D94.BBDB76DE-ON852576AF.006B4314-852576AF.006CCD97 at hannaford.com
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  Hello all,
> >>
> >>        I'd like your thoughts on these questions from Michael Gregg's
> >>
> >>  CISSP
> >>  Practice questions:
> >>
> >>  In an asymmetric system how many keys are required for 10 users to
> >> fully
> >>
> >>  communicate?
> >>
> >>
> >>  A. 10
> >>  B. 20
> >>  C. 45
> >>  D 110
> >>
> >>  The answer states D. 110 -  "Each user would have his private, phus
> >> his
> >>  public key, plus each of the nine other public keys"
> >>
> >>  Shouldn't the answer be B. 20  because the public keys is only couned
> >>  once
> >>
> >>  for each private/public pair?  This also seems consistent with the
> >>
> >>  formula
> >>  for symmetric keys: N(N-1)/2 where N is the number of users needing to
> >>
> >>  communicate.  In this case the secret key is only counted once even if
> >>
> >>  it's
> >>
> >>  shared between users.
> >>
> >>
> >>  Here's another question that has me puzzled:
> >>
> >>
> >>  Which cryptographic system can be used for integrity, authenticity and
> >>
> >>  non-repudiation?
> >>
> >>
> >>  A. Asymmetric encryption
> >>
> >>  B. Symmetric  encryption
> >>
> >>  C. Hashing
> >>
> >>  D. None of the above
> >>
> >>
> >>  The answers states A. Asymmetric.  Shouldn't the answer be D. None of
> >> the
> >>
> >>  above because Hashing is needed for integrity?
> >>
> >>
> >>  Your thoughts will be much appreciated.
> >>
> >>
> >>  Tom Witwicki, CIPP
> >>
> >>  Director, Information Security
> >>
> >>  Hannaford Bros. Co.
> >>  207-885-2073
> >>
> >>
> >>  Join me on Linkedin!
> >>
> >>  http://www.linkedin.com/in/tomwitwicki
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  ------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>  Message: 2
> >>
> >>  Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:47:45 +0000
> >>  From: "Mark Price" <prinext at gmail.com>
> >>
> >>  To: "The CISSP Study Mailing list" <cisspstudy at cccure.org>
> >>
> >>  Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] New to CISSP Cert
> >>  Message-ID:
> >>      <
> >>
> >> 1180962559-1263851266-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-147941822
> >> -
> >>
> >>  @bda153.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
> >>
> >>
> >>  Content-Type: text/plain
> >>
> >>
> >>  I have heard each edition is an update of the previous plus more of
> >> the
> >>  latest technology and or standards.
> >>  I have the 4th and the DVD set, they plus cccure.org worked for me.
> >>  V/r,
> >>
> >>
> >>  Mark Price
> >>
> >>  PRINEXT
> >>  c:240-743-7654
> >>
> >>  mprice at prinext.com
> >>
> >>  www.prinext.com
> >>
> >>  -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >>  From: Cert Prep <bugtraq.mailbox at gmail.com>
> >>  Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:22:40
> >>  To: The CISSP Study Mailing list<cisspstudy at cccure.org>
> >>  Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] New to CISSP Cert
> >>
> >>  Thanks Jeronimo. I will listen to it.
> >>
> >>  I have Shon Harris Second Edition which I bought many years back. I
> >>  have heard that 5th edition is about to come. Is it ok to prepare from
> >>
> >>  second edition until 5th edition is out? Does anybody know the
> >>
> >>  differences between 2nd and 4th? I am sure there will be many but are
> >>  those drastic to the extent that I will have to revise the stuff,
> >>  which I have already gone through using second edition, from 5th
> >>
> >>  edition once it is published?
> >>
> >>  Any help would be appreciated.
> >>
> >>
> >>  Thanks.
> >>  Adam
> >>
> >>
> >>  On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Jeronimo Zucco <jczucco at gmail.com>
> >>
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>  > 2010/1/18 Cert Prep <bugtraq.mailbox at gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>  >> Hi Folks,
> >>
> >>  >>
> >>
> >>  >> I am planning to prepare for CISSP Cert and would like to know
> >> which
> >>  >> book or material is best for the preparations.
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > http://www.cccure.org/flash/intro/player.html
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > --
> >>
> >>  > Jeronimo Zucco
> >>
> >>  > http://jczucco.blogspot.com
> >>  >
> >>  > _______________________________________________
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> >>  >
> >>
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> >>  ------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>  Message: 3
> >>
> >>  Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:05:00 +0800
> >>  From: jack wang <windjie at gmail.com>
> >>  To: The CISSP Study Mailing list <cisspstudy at cccure.org>
> >>
> >>  Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] New to CISSP Cert
> >>  Message-ID:
> >>      <3c43566f1001190405t2bfd204as4a953dd160a5b92b at mail.gmail.com>
> >>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>
> >>
> >>  Shon Harris Second Edition,plus www.cccure.org,they are enough
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> >>
> >>  Message: 4
> >>
> >>  Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:34:19 -0200
> >>  From: Jeronimo Zucco <jczucco at gmail.com>
> >>
> >>  To: The CISSP Study Mailing list <cisspstudy at cccure.org>
> >>
> >>  Subject: Re: [Cisspstudy] New to CISSP Cert
> >>  Message-ID:
> >>      <2d6b298c1001190434i6f1eb72ct1157b63b80fe9301 at mail.gmail.com>
> >>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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> >>
> >>  All-in_one edition 5:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.amazon.com/CISSP-All-One-Guide-Fifth/dp/0071602178/ref=sr_1_2
> >> ?
> >>
> >>  ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263898897&sr=8-2
> >>
> >>  I always recommend the last edition, because of updates and
> >>  corretions. Or you can read all erratas for your edition.
> >>
> >>  2010/1/19 jack wang <windjie at gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>  > ?Shon Harris Second Edition,plus www.cccure.org,they are enough
> >>  >
> >>
> >>
> >>  --
> >>
> >>  Jeronimo Zucco
> >>
> >>  http://jczucco.blogspot.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  ------------------------------
> >>
> >>
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